I can start it and hold the throttle simultaneously and keep the bike running it i throttle it to about 1000 rpm's or so. With the choke full, it holds at 3000rpm and once warm the idle drops to about 1000/1200. Too loose and it won't idle, too tight and it will pull the throttle cable tight and rev engine. Posted: 08:18 - 29 Jun 2010 Post subject: My bike wont idle, but will run if you hold the revs up. I can't keep it in first or neutral without throttle. Something I need to explain. It won't start. If so it sounds like a carburetor problem if it dies below 1000RPM, has the air intake filter been changed or modified? Still have questions? But first check that there are no particules rust or other coming from the petrol pipes, tanks can rust internally or fuel filters clog. By continuing to use this site you consent to the use of cookies on your device as described in our cookie policy unless you have disabled them. Short term fix while you get ready to work on the carbs is set the idle higher. Liquid gasoline does not burn. Has sat for 2 weeks now, won't start. Sounds like your idle screw is out of adjustment. It's an 05. Is your scooter having trouble idling? Any damage to you or the bike? Discussion Starter • #1 • Sep 19, 2013. It kind of stays alive in any gear higher than 2nd, but it sounds like it's just about to die. For instance, as you continue wondering why your motorcycle won’t start, find out if the fuel petcock is on reserve or turned on. Gasoline vapor is what actually burns. Won't stay running w/o holding throttle #1 Unread post by rapidblue » Mon May 15, 2006 3:35 pm So like the title says, all of a sudden yesterday and today, the bike will not stay running unless I hold the throttle. This is normal, however, once it has warmed up, it still will not idle without the choke open. The bike hasn't been running to my knowledge for 4-5 months. Bouncing up … Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. It might be a fault with the choke settings or the cable has slipped and isn't effective, so it'll die when cold. This is a classic symptom of a partially or fully clogged pilot jet. When your engine burns all the Sea Foam, it will stop. Twist the throttle control and let it snap back. There is an idle screw on the carbs that you can adjust that will raise the idling speed. Permalink. Oh and if it helps at all, my bike is a 1986 Honda Shadow VT700. Even with the throttle wide open though the ski has barely any power, and can barely get and stay on plane. The carb jets or fuel injectors (if so equipped)are plugged with old dried fuel. Why won’t my ATV idle without dying? It sat for 10 years with only a few hours (20) on it. 13 Posts . Reattach the fuel line to the tank and let your bike sit for 10 to 15 minutes. Several things can be the cause. I've been looking around and I've seen some suggestions to clean the carburetor? You could literally see gas streaming down the throttle body and puddling at the bottom of the intake manifold. try r/fixxit, they're good with this shit. Loosen the screw and turn the cable in or out to get 1/16 to 1/8 inch freeplay on the thumb throttle. Th Before I pulled the carbs out and cleaned them, my bike would turn over and fire up but now that I removed them and put them back in my bike won’t stay running. This sounds pretty simple to me. Posts: 812. If you stay off the throttle it will idle but its very rough and wants to die then finally dies. Prior to my purchase the previous owner, a friend, said he cleaned the carbs. Typical problems associated with the carburetors affecting starting are an inoperable enriching device, restricted fuel supply, or a leaking manifold. If this is something that was running recently, and is clean with clean fuel, it may just have gotten moisture in the fuel or debris clogging up the carburetor jets. Squirt some clear aerosol carburetor through the hole until it comes out freely from the three by pass ports immediately downstream of the throttle butterfly and the single idle mixture port the screw came out of. So, why does a motorcycle throttle stick? Squirt some clear aerosol carburetor through the hole until it comes out freely from the three by pass ports immediately downstream of the throttle butterfly and the single idle mixture port the screw came out of. Charged the battery again - truck starts, but it will not stay running. Total Motorcycle Garage Forums. This is a rebuilt 2.8 stroked to a 3.1. Then, start it up normally, and see if it will now run without the choke being wide open. Then find the pilot air jet and squirt carb cleaner through it. http://www.kawasakipartshouse.com/oemparts/a/kaw/500b25edf8700223e478f8ad/carburetor. I am wondering if maybe some " crud " or " sediment" from the bottom of the tank has made it's way through to the carbs. My Mule will stall at Idle unless I keep choking it. It seems simple enough in theory haha. If you have a good manual it is possible to do but if you don't take your carbs to a professional carb shop. What do you think of the answers? That is why it is always the one that causes the problem. The spark plugs were badly fouled (carbon). Basically, shell start up fine and idle around 1500-2000 rpm (full choke) but upon going to 1/2 choke or giving her any throttle, she dies. Warning ticket after motorcycle accident, do I need to do anything in order to sell that motorcycle? This is my first bike. Now I am a total noob, when it comes to working on motorcyles. Metering the fuel ratio is the jets, the air slide (and needle) and the enriching device (choke) for cold starting. Everything else works it just won’t start. I changed my oil due to the gasoline in there, now my bike will only startup with the choke, then it dies when given throttle. Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 18, 2014. I checked all fuses, connections, wires, battery, etc. A motorcycle throttle that sticks while your riding can be annoying, but it can also be dangerous. Discussion Starter • #1 • May 11, 2010. I went with a 130 main and a #20 pilot. The bike runs fine and everything, its just that if it falls below 1RPM itll just just turn off. I duck-walked it to a nearby parking lot and it sat there for a week until I towed it to a cycle shop. Discussion Starter • #1 • Dec 1, 2012. Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 3, 2019. Fresh gas and "jet cleaner" WILL NOT fix the problem. Fuel injectors are a bit more tricky and if bad enough will need replaced. This is what a Honda Foreman owner wants to know and he asked the ATV AnswerMan for help. 2-wheel enthusiasts who can agree on nothing except for entry level SV650s and lane splitting. battery or bad starter motor. It will only run if you have the choke on. are any fuels lines partially clogged? The engine would turn over but it wouldn't stay running more than about 5 seconds. Sometimes, it'll run at idle for just a fe … read more It acts as if the kickstandis still down and i even played with that too. I replaced those and it ran again, for about 5 miles, then it stranded me. is your fuel filter clean? Does that make sense? a) After Storage. Start up the bike with the choke on. You will have to open the choke to get it running again. http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/mc-garage-video-how-to-clean-motorcycle-carburetor. Don’t try this at home!) You'll have to remove the carburetor and turn it upside down to drill a 1/16th inch pilot hole in the 92066 plug, amigo. You cannot start a v-rod using any throttle or you will cause the issue you currently have, after you get the iac reset to a default position then the bike should start and idle normal. Help! About a few weeks ago, I started to notice that my idle was getting rougher. Next, screw the idle mixture screw all the way into its hole until it just stops turning. If your bike has been warmed up and is idling lower than the recommended level from the manufacturer, you probably have a couple of problems: The engine will stall easily or may not stay running without throttle being added. At my ends wits! Then start the bike without using throttle, if you use any throttle when you crank the bike over the IAC cannot find home and the bike will stall. I have tried everything I can think of or that I have read to check. 20 posts • Page 1 of 1. Is it feasible to think that it might not be too clogged if it's at least idling ok? Quick links. Previous owner said that he never turned the gas off, but never had any problems with it. Discussion Starter • #1 • Mar 14, 2011. my 2007 ltr 450 was running fine all day! Lean running engines tend to “hang up” at high rpms when the throttle is let go, and they also rev down slowly after the throttle is closed. Motorcycle wont start or run without giving it gas? What gives? By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. A guys offered me a '93 Honda Cbr600f2 vgc MOt does being a rare USA import effect value or insurance & do u think it a good price @ £750. It will turn over for about a second or two and just die. 21 Years. Hey guys, I have an 08 R1 that is sick. If I didn't give enough info just say so. When the jets are clogged, that means not enough fuel is being delivered hence the reason there’s too much air in the mixture. I assume it's due for a carb adjustment of some sort, but I need a point in the right direction. 2014 Honda Rebel motorcycle, 3042 miles.Cold starts well with choke. I have a 2007 Ninja 250. When I came to a stop, the revs would stay up around 2000, throttle off. When I came to a stop, the revs would stay up around 2000, throttle off. You don't say if it's only at the start or throughout. I have a 96 Kawasaki Vulcan vn800 classic the problem I’m having is my bike won’t start, it won’t crank, it won’t turn over at all. Trouble Shooting. Please help Sometimes the ATV won’t run at idle, or it may bog down when applying throttle. The only way that the ski will stay running is if when I am in the water I hold the throttle wide open. Even with today’s improved batteries, if it hasn’t happened to you yet, it will. I ran around on " reserve" for about twenty miles yesterday. Bouncing up … Super easy job. The bike turns over and I can hear the fuel pump working but it won't idle right or stay running. Skip to content. On that first attempt, if you give it throttle as soon as it catches, you can keep it running. After which the bike started behaving oddly. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. Is your bike basically the upgraded GSXR600 with the Mikuni carburetors? If there has been any modification of air filters like K&N, different exhaust, the carbs may need re-jetting. Welcome to Bike Talk, a forum for all bikers and motorcycle enthusiasts. If the bike has a choke, make sure it's closed. Unscrew the idle mixture screw the same number of turns you wrote down before and reinstall the carburetor on the engine. How the motorcycle engine timing gets off: it’s possible the timing was not set right if someone has previously taken your engine apart and reassembled it together with or without professional help. Ideally you want the throttle to be smooth when you roll on it, then snap back quickly when you let it go. It is a heat exchanger and if you are not giving it enough fluid to transfer that heat then you will get problems before too long. 330 Million Readers. But, after reading this site, I had put Seafoam in the tank when I put it up for the winter. I replaced those and it ran again, for about 5 miles, then it stranded me. You don't say if it's only at the start or throughout. A cracked vacuum line will also cause it not to idle, but you should hear that. I'm trying to figure out what's wrong with my Virago 250cc. It could also be a carburetor issue if it runs with choke. Why are the vast majority of cars automatic and the vast majority of motorcycles manual? When throttle is increased it … I have read through a lot of the forums to see what I can find out so that I don't have to be repetitive but I can't find anything similar to this. Ay, didn't know that was a thing. Liquid gasoline does not burn. Something I need to explain. Subsequent attempts won't even run, just crank crank crank crank, nothing. Check battery and charging system. It might be worth just seafoaming your gas to see if that works. Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by TShamanSon, Jan 21, 2013. Bouncing up … "It actually starts running it just won't stay running." Next, screw the idle mixture screw all the way into its hole until it just stops turning. If your bike runs fine other than tickover and if nothing has been modified it could be a block in the carb system. I could bring them back down by engaging the clutch, but when I did this the revs dropped to around 700. The bike will not stay running without the choke fully out. The spark plugs were badly fouled (carbon). Won't stay running without full choke! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, NH/NY 1991 GSXR 750 - 1981 XS850 Project, くコ:彡| '16 Hypermotard | Analog SR 500 | '17 z125 Pro, '10 KLR/ '08 Street Glide/ '02 Super Sherpa. Why won't my motorcycle stay running? Your engine will run mo' betta' at 2.0 turns open. The best way to un-flood an engine is by removing the spark plugs, turning the choke off, and turning your motor over to drain all the excess gas. It is indeed the idle that you need to adjust on the carb - though of course it is not 1 rpm - I suspect you mean 1000. What's my problem here? Hi, I have a 1987 Kawasaki JS550 thats been having some problems. The oil pressure in the engine will be very low Whats going on? I have to open the choke to crank it and leave the choke open some while it warms up. (You can put out a burning match in a cup of gasoline! so i replaced my petcock, which was just pouring gas into my carbs nonstop. Sounds like a clogged idle jet to me though. 1 Posts . When your cranking the stater motor is not spinning fast enough. Anyone know what to do for this? Even more so after you've run the battery down or tried push starting it, yet it still won't start and run properly, all the while your riding buddies are waiting on you to get that thing started. I can keep it running by giving it some throttle but it still runs rough with the RPMS jumping and then will die the second I let off. Does it start up fine and keep running as long as you engage the throttle? (You can put out a burning match in a cup of gasoline! Hi, I have a 2013 Artic Cat 500 EFI. But now the bike dies if I don't keep constant throttle on it. Im guessing I didnt pull the clutch in fast enough, im not sure. The bike turns over and I can hear the fuel pump working but it won't idle right or stay running. The coolant is a bit low but doesn't seem to heat up. Then I let the ski … Spread the love. Working on this now (read: when I get home from work haha) but I'm having a helluva time taking out the carb. Answer Save. Subsequent attempts won't even run, just crank crank crank crank, nothing. Please help! Let the key and switch stay on for approx 1 minute. Thanks! I'm the proud owner of a 94 600f2, and I'm having some running issues. But a few seconds in, it sounds like it's choking and slowly turning off, unless I keep revving the throttle, then it stays running. You should actually hear the function of the barrel in the carb. Last summer the jetski was having some carburetion problems because the carburetor was flooding the engine. Then screw a small sheetmetal screw into the pilot hole and pull the screw and plug out with pliers. I duck-walked it to a nearby parking lot and it sat there for a week until I towed it to a cycle shop. It would turn on normally. Since it won't take any throttle, I'meaning towards it being the pilot jet. 3 Posts . Charged the battery - truck started and ran fine. It dies in idle which basically means 1 rpm. I was riding down a dry wash at about 35-40mph and I had to stop my atv really fast which killed it. Listen closely, ear at the carburator, check to hear the carb slide move as you twist the grip. 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