At 33 lbs. “All in all, though, you get a lot of boat for $900. I have recently added a Reflection Dagger 15 to the stable, and I'm going to rig it for a Summer 2013 solo run of the length of the Missouri River as it flows through the state of Missouri, some 550 miles. In retrospect, another inch or two forward for the seat may have been even better, but this is splitting hairs – the new seat location is 100x better than the factory location. If anyone knows of one for sale please give me a heads up. I never use it... extremely hard to load, carry, etc. Adirondack Canoe Company is the culmination of our early exposure to the joy and craftsmanship of boat building, and the platform to carry forward and share our lifelong passion for canoeing. I can put this canoe on my car and then carry down the path to the shore all by myself, which is why I bought it! The boat does exactly what is expected of it and I look forward to enjoying it for years to come. I've wanted an Old Town Pack since I first saw one. I also can't believe how FAST this canoe paddles (with a double blade) compared to the SOT kayaks...I can paddle all day with my buddies in the SOT's and usually have to slow for them. We moved slow and steady and navigated with little trouble in the wind and rain. I fish frequently from my Pack canoe, spending many hours on the water without issue. Step one was to fit loops to the hull/rail fasteners. Have used it on small ponds to huge lakes, initially for paddling & fishing, and most recently for paddling my 2 dogs (90 lbs total + my 150 lbs) around exploring the lake. The Canoe at 33lbs replaced my 54lb Kayak. No damage, and our float began as if nothing whatsoever had happened. Let me repeat, I paddle the Pack essentially backwards from the kneeling position. I fit just fine kneeling or sitting, though find sitting on bench less stable. L: 12′; W:32″; D: 11.5″, 33 lbs. One weekend I tried a 220cm kayak paddle and decided a kayak paddle was the way to go. Tried the boat out today and had a blast, steady as a rock, not tossed about in the wind, and tracked fairly well with both a straight and double paddle. It's tough to have tracking and maneuverability built into the same boat. I never sit on the seat - an invitation for a swim. Properly loaded and trimmed out the Pack is very maneuverable. The only drawback was that it was not as stable as our 2-person canoes. I use a 68" Cherry paddle for most of my travels but thinking of getting a Yak paddle for upstream and into the wind. I use ONLY a traditional straight beaver tail because I'm in it for the experience, not how fast I can go. Expect portages with any boat. I LOVE this boat after that! Plenty of room for her and the German Shorthair Pointer. The Pack easily accepts my mods, foam pads on the bottom to protect the hull and keep the dog happy. It was such a perfect solo canoe I replaced it with a new one in 2010. I've been using an 8' double paddle and I agree a bit more length may be better. Purchased a 2015 OT Pack. I would rather kneel in the canoe but the standard seat placement made that difficult, as it wasn't easy to jam my feet under the seat so lowering the seat that amount seems to work well for me. I own 2 other tandem canoes, and have used many different brands of tandem and solo canoes for guiding trips and for recreational use so I feel qualified to give a fair assessment of the Pack canoe. I rigged up an anchor trolley I can add, plastic crate for fishing stuff if that's the days activity, and when my wife just wants to go for a paddle, she sits up in the bow area on a short legged folding chair I bought for turkey hunting. Would recommend to anyone but try it out first to see if you like it. At 33 lbs I can carry it to the lake with one hand. Made for solo use and well-suited for double-bladed paddle. This boat is sweet! My 12 YO daughter loved padding it. We then bought a 42# Ultralight Wenonah. My destination was the town of Hermann, 340 miles down the Missouri river. I found that out not by having an accidental spill, but by deliberately leaning to one side to see how far she'd go without dunking me. Découvrez les Canoës / Kayak Old Town . After 28 years of use I am having to do my first patch job on an interior crack, obtained while shooting over one of the 30+ beaver dams on the Oswegatchie river. I was completely surprised by the initial stability of this craft. This a fabulous boat. I didn’t lower the seat, as many have done here, but did replace it and move it forward to about 3” behind center. These prevented tipping but also caught waves, splashed water into the canoe and interfered with paddling. On a 270cm paddle, the Slice blade will yield a slightly longer shaft than the Glide blade, a real plus for reaching over the side and for keeping drips outside the craft. This works fine for kneeling but for sitting a 260 might be better. Simply cut to your desired length and "plug and play." MSRP $1099 I WILL NOT SHIP THIS CANOE. Yes it's a bit tippy but you get used to it quickly. It is, however, not a tandem canoe and people should not expect it to be one. I start with some thing like a C, then finish with a J, rudder or pry as warranted. One issue, not really fond of the shoulder carry, and thwarts not really set up for a normal carry. I love kayaking and had never really canoed before this boat but the ability to include my big dogs with me was the main reason I went with the canoe. Loading up a backpack, and fishing gear, the Pack was just the right size and weight to carry through those long wooded portages balanced on my backpack frame. Would have stayed out longer but was chased off the water by a thunderstorm. If it's just me and no camping gear, I usually load some weight in the front of the boat - water, etc...and it doesn't windcock. Not the fastest canoe but who cares it only weighs 33lbs and can be carried anywhere (however it will keep up with a tandem with little effort). Size 13 feet make it hard to tuck my legs under so my solution was to replace the seat with second thwart mounted at the rear of the two seat attachments. As time marched on I realized the selling of the Pack was a BIG MISTAKE! Frankly I'd not heard of this boat and came to this site only to learn it's beloved by most of you (thanks for the advice). It is very stable and I don't understand those who think it should feel like a raft. kayak paddle and my dog and I have been going out each weekend. Besides fishing, I am sure I will camp out of it, backpacking gear will be an easy load with lots of room to spare. This canoe is multi-purpose for sure, but I think the ultimate use is for packing gear for camping. The Pack tracked much worse than expected, solo and tandem. Very satisfied. Light as expected and very easy to car top. There's just nothing better for the soul - nobody else goes to the places I get to in this little canoe, and the fish I find have had little or no fishing pressure. “It gets me up higher off the water and it’s nice and stable,” he said. and small. If more weight is wanted forward, use the front thwart and paddle facing aft. Whenever I exit the river at a park people come over to check it out & pick it up and after talking to me tell me they are making it their next purchase. Tracking on calm water is good with proper paddling technique. That didn’t help tracking much and the shafts hit the gunnels and dripped into the boat. I like to tinker, so I drew up a plan for a new front thwart/foot brace/rod holder/tackle shelf/bungee deck. Delighted. The Royalex construction is nearly indestructible, and essentially impervious to UV. Experiment with 240cm or longer kayak paddles. Then I tried 2 different seats, the Crazy Creek canoe seat and the GCI sit backer seat. Worked like a charm in a fairly high wind situation while I was sitting on the canoe seat and using a double-bladed kayak paddle. Speed is not an issue for my purposes, so I am just very happy to be able to get on the water without an entourage! There is nothing like laying down in a canoe on a cool but mostly sunny fall day watching the clouds float by. Being able to "lock yourself in" with the footpegs makes all the difference in the world, and with the centered and lowered seat, the Pack feel like an entirely different canoe from what I originally bought. I'm love this canoe. It's easy to maneuver and I don't find it very tippy. The perfect on-water family vessel that will provide good times and great memories. It needed minor work. I'm really looking forward to a great summer learning to paddle and exploring new places in my Pack. I purchased this Canoe due to the fact that I paddle most times alone can portage/car top the car with ease. I just picked up a used Pack 12 that is about 18 yrs old. I wanted a canoe easy to move around dangerous rapids and easy to get on top of my Cherokee. I routinely put the same amount of weight in the canoe without trouble, but I distribute it. So I was able to save a little money in the process and got a great boat out of it! I knew I could add weight to the bow to offset this – but I bought this boat for it’s light weight, so it offends me to have to carry extra weight that shouldn’t be needed! In the spring I run a few class 2&3 rivers and manage to pry my cheeks apart after the day is over and the pack is doing fine. I have owned two Old Town Pack canoes. My paddle was throwing a little too much water on board, so I picked up a Bending Branches Slice 280, the boat now stays nice and dry and no shaft knock on the gunwales even at a fairly relaxed angle. The size and weight makes transporting/portaging easy. When properly packed I still have room to rotate myself around, slide my legs under the thwart and then sort of up and around the aft dryduffle permitting me to laydown in the canoe. I put my pfd on it and it's very comfortable and with my feet up on the center support I can lock myself in place and paddle all day. I just got back from a week long trip in the NY Adirondacks with the Pack. Tracking is a little off probably because of it's short length but it's still easy to paddle along. My preferred paddle is a Grey Owl Ottertail which seems to be a perfect match for me and the Pack. My favorite feature is that I can carry the canoe all by myself, and I am a small woman who never goes to the gym! Amazing strength and durability for such a light canoe. I can maneuver in currents around all sorts of obstacles, some of which I have banged right into while learning. However it just didn't feel right so I practiced my J-stroke with the beavertail paddle and that also improved the tracking. It is a great canoe to fish out of, and get you in and out of thin water, and tight spots. This is the lowest new boat price around. Whether carried bow, or stern first, the seat or thwart obstruct vision and can bang against ones head and face. Just took my brand new Pack out for maiden voyage. For reference, I'm 6' and heavy at 265, 10.5 shoe. It's a very maneuverable boat. very nice - makes me even more proud of my Pack! The Royalex hull scratches easily, but is almost bulletproof (the scars make it look better to me!). I know this canoe has a great following, and being a solo canoer I felt I had to have one (not so much I would pay the gouging prices some folks are charging since they discontinued it). For best results before I put my seat in the boat I put down a small rug with rubber backing to stick to the floor. Tracking is within reason with good technique. The Pack features a V entry hull which helps aid straight line paddling. Aces all around. I think perhaps I'm being a bit conservative in giving the Pack a 9. Only a mild sensation of tippiness that quickly goes away after a little paddling around. I have also used this canoe with a grandkid on the deck in front of me, no problems. It is called the Hunter not the Pack. But the Pack does perfectly what it was designed to do, be a solo, easily transported and paddled canoe at a great price. I kept it one season, and feel it has a place, but not for me. So far as I have always known, if you paddle a boat on one side, you'll go in a circle if you don't compensate somehow. Beautiful old town canoe. Tip it over, get wet, have some fun. I have switched to a canoe paddle. It took me about two hours to feel comfortable in the Pack. I notice a few of the reviewers concerns about the boat not being stiff enough, as an old wood and canvas canoe owner and restorer, all I can say is that's the way a canoe should feel. For my touring load I use several Seal Line drybags and duffle and a Pelican hard case for my pantry. Bow Height 17" Depth 11.5" Colours Deep Forest Green Hull Oltonar / Royalex.® When we reached the put-in, the Pack was nowhere to be seen. I've done lots of creeking with it. It may not seem like much but 10 lbs is a difference maker when you get older (55). It has several signs of use but not really much abuse at all. Using the Solo-C stroke it goes straight and as fast as I need. Kept it for a couple of years and then sold it to a very happy buyer. I'm happy after one seven hour trip and the boat worked well for fishing. Awesome little boat. The Old Town Canoe Company has been making quality canoes and kayaks for more than a century, building a reputation as one of the foremost leaders of the canoe and kayak industry. Hi, I’ve been looking at solo canoes for fishing. Quicker strokes equal better tracking on this short canoe. Go for it! At this time I am unable to paddle the Pack, as my 13 year old son grabs it and the double blade paddle and leaves my wife, daughter, and I far behind in our tandem. Have owned mine for 17 yrs and she's still in good shape. It's not really even faded much, despite the annual saltwater trips. Not great in wind, but good craft for fishing calm waters and wind protected water, quite stable with minimal gear. I use it as a solo canoe or take out the seat and cross member, load it up with gear for 10 to 15 day camping/fishing trips and tow it to an island behind my kayak. An extremely practical little boat, the Old Town Pack is built for abuse, if not speed. Weighing in at 33 pounds, the Old Town Pack Canoe needs only 4” of water to slip through. Fast. Upgraded seat, foot pads and paddleHARD TO FIND - Old Town Pack Canoe Rare "Angler" ModelThe Old Town Pack Canoe is made of extremely durable and tough Royalex ®which is why the canoe weights only 33 pounds.The Pack Canoe is quieter than aluminum, tougher than fiber, and ... USED Old Town Pack Canoe - $500 (Brunswick, GA) Soon, I will try overnighting like this once I make up a deck cover. There is no "secondary stability," whereby one might save himself from getting wet by quickly righting the canoe--it the gunwale is at the surface of the water, there's no stopping it from going over. I contacted customer service to confirm the Pack was symmetrical, it is. ), and I have also had the canoe out on large lakes in more wind than I like (25-30 mph), and was surprised how stable it handled. Sometimes I sit on the side, like Becky Mason, which helps with speed. I've had many kayaks/canoes since. The Old Town Pack has versatility packed into its 3.7m, 14kg hull. and in tough Royalex. A half-size ice chest fits behind the seat and a 3-gallon water can under the seat. Max capacity 600 lbs.This particular model is diffic Great boat with, but must have a kayak paddle. Add to Watchlist Unwatch. I have hit some rocks getting only a few minor scrapes. We were experienced lake and river canoers, all kinds of water, difficulties. I posted a 3 day trip I took down the Willamette (Harrisburg to Salem 100m) and the Pack worked fantastically, both in handling and gear capacity. (in spite of the rain) It is all that everyone says it is. As with my other boats, I lowered the seat 2" - not sure I won't raise it back up. A primary advantage of the 12' Pack is that it fits within a full size van so the regiment involving rack mounting is eliminated. barge I've been using for the past umpteen years. And, the price is 1/3 the cost of a Hornbeck boat. You cannot survive with a single blade paddle under those conditions. I bought my Pack about 15 years ago and it's been one of my favorite investments over the years. Really happy with it so far. For the value and what it can do, it scores high. Thanks. My preferred position in unstable water conditions is to kneel so that the hull does not bend and flex upward. I have a Penobscot 17 that my wife and I use, now there's a canoe that is steady and tracks like a dream. I have loaded my Pack with five days worth of provisions, including a reclining lawn chair, for a summer trip down the John Day River in Oregon. Will be using for fishing, trapping, overnight camping trips and to take along on our paddle club outings. They claim to have incorporated both canoeing and kayaking characteristics in one small, fun and modern boat. I'm 6 feet 200 pounds and learned quickly its capabilities and limitations. I use a single blade paddle with no problem. You only need about 4 inches of water. My reason for buying this canoe was to do the Green River in Utah. Otherwise I am most comfortable with my legs crossed in front of me. Not good in heavy wind/waves, but I didn't expect it to be. I recommend it to most people. Folks I'm 57 and in good shape but do most of my boating solo and 33lbs on my shoulder is a charm. Not perfect for everything or everyone, but it is still a 10. For a single paddler I am glad I purchased this canoe. Old Town Saranac 146. Also, if you tilt it to the gunwale, it's going over. It tracks very well with a standard J-stroke and is plenty fast enough for enjoying the river. We did hit weather after a few days so I spent those days kneeling to keep my center low. Can't say enough great things about my Pack. Old Town sacrificed nothing, delivering a comfortable, hands-free performance fishing kayak that’s easy to maneuver and even easier to transport. This canoe just swallows gear. I've only had it out 5 times now for a couple of hours at a time, ...and only in fairly calm water, but I love it. Occasionally we do use the Old Town sailing kit and on Burntside Lake, Pamlico Sound, Chespeake Bay or Kentucky Lake we can really fly. Paddles nice, and yes it is a canoe, and yes it is "tippy". Specs Length 12'0" Width 32", Capacity 180kg, Weight 15kg. As others have done, I lowered the seat by purchasing 6 inch long stainless steel screws and brass pipe sleeves. The first thing I did was add 4 inch drops to lower the seat and added adjustable foot rests. Store it inside and you'll have many years of enjoyment. I sold it about 10 years ago. < P> My duties as a single father, to a daughter born April 5, 2011, have also kept me off the water somewhat. All considered, I think this is one of the great canoes ever made, and one that gets a lot less publicity than it deserves. The ultra versatile Pack features, black vinyl gunwales, and polyethylene decks with grab handles. Don't turn sideways and fling a lure without a little forethought. 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