It is (largely) this lack of a mature AMRAAM capability that stop it taking the number two slot that one might expect given of such a sophisticated system. The F-35 is perhaps the hardest aircraft to place on this list as its stealth and situational awareness should give it a very high ranking but reports continue to circulate regarding problems with the aircraft’s AMRAAM integration. Smaller BVR missiles now being studied may address the shortcoming in combat persistence which prevents the type from taking full advantage of its stealth and SA advantage. The F-22 is now proven in combat; though it has not taken part in air-to-air combat, it has performed in the CAS, ISR and Combat Air Patrol missions over Syria, and more recently in Afghanistan. What of the compromises? A total of over 1,200 F-15s have been built by McDonnell Douglas and later, Boeing. WhatsApp. It also lacks the agility and high altitude performance of the F-22, Rafale or Typhoon. LANCA seems to be smaller than the projects being developed by the US, Australia and Europe for remote carriers, with the idea that there should be more of them and attritable. Or am I being a bit stupid. In this category the F-22 has failings, which include a low combat readiness and a small fleet. A2A armament: 2 x Meteor + 4 x MICA (normal service load-out) (or – rarer- four Meteor and two Meteor). Its combination of high energy manoeuvrability, all aspect stealth, AESA radar and its ability to receive information from other aircraft allow it massive liberty in its options. He chose a team that was pro-Brexit and, true to form, it turned out to be short on intellect and basic talent, a bunch of immature yes boys! In all but the latter category the Su-35 is hopelessly outclassed by the F-22 (as are all other operational fighter aircraft). New ones are being developed even as you read this, and governments across the … Many air forces have trained for years in tactics to counter AMRAAM, but few know much about how to respond to the vast No Escape Zone of Meteor. BAE Systems, Leonardo UK, Rolls-Royce and MBDA UK are top notch R&D companies. We can also just use the BAE Taranis surface elements for really hard maneuvering. The last combat aircraft Australia procured from the UK was the Canberra bomber, 65+ years ago, we then looked at TSR-2 as a possible replacement, and we know what happened there. Yes thjat is the inherent issue. Tally-ho, chocks away, and jolly good show: The UK’s new Tempest fighter jet will be a decidedly British affair. It is outfitted with one Tumansky R25-300 turbojet which gives the MiG-21 a maximum speed of 1,350 mph. Abundant fuel reserves and a large weapon load. Its appalling reliability and extremely high-maintenance demands (many shared with the F-22) also count against it. ), A2A armament: 6 x R-77 or R-27T, 4 x R-73 (1 x 30-mm cannon). The IFDL has a low-probability of intercept and low-probability of detection capability that offers a high resistance to jamming and eavesdropping. The long-range PL-15 is mature enough to be worrying the US and is a catalyst for the development of the US AIM-260 which is rumoured to be further down the development path that publicly quoted. The problem when you look at the leading edge in projects like this is that money is… Read more », Hi Trevor, My understanding is that all the companies are putting some money into the pot or are making technology they have already developed available to the Tempest programme. He certainly had a flying RC model which flew complex maneuvers and which he would show at his talks. ... bringing the procurement total to 623 aircraft as of 2019. Hay maybe the aero dynamic and thrust vectoring potential is more advanced in concept work than we presently… Read more ». When high-altitude limitations are not in place (due to safety concerns) the type fights from a higher perch than F-15s and F-16s, and is more frequently supersonic. Stealth and unparalleled situational awareness make a potent beyond visual fighter of the F-35A, despite its pedestrian kinematic performance. The fastest modern fighter in the world, with a top speed of Mach 2.83+, the MiG-31 offers some unique capabilities. Well it does have some resemblances to it, I’m wondering what its flexible payload would comprise of ! Additionally, unlike Typhoon, the canard is not closely coupled to the wing. Head on signature could be comparable to competing systems if appropriate engine installation and airframe treatments are used. rocurement moves by the US (both F-22s and 6th Gen’ plans), Japan (with the F-3) and Turkey (prior to the 2019 F-35 boycott) with the TF-X show that those who can afford an alternative don’t consider the F-35 a viable air superiority platform. Though it should be noted that Meteor has not been tested in combat. Facebook. If the proposed “revamped SEATO” alliance is resurrected next year/ They could become strategic allies. Just thinking the same thing, this country doesn’t have a great rack record in following through with large orders without some cut backs with the knock on effect of a higher ticket price. The Americans have already flown their version but nothing is being shown… and it’s being said it can be built economically. The F-15 remains the fastest Western fighter to have ever entered service, and is currently the fastest non-Russian frontline aircraft of any kind in the world (though an F-15 pilot we spoke to here said he’d never got a clean eagle over Mach 2.3). Affordability will… Read more ». Indeed. And what is certain is that it’s never going to be easier to see a sub esp in deep water than it is an aircraft I suspect so don’t expect any great thoughts in that direction for many years. The recent R-37M, which is believed to be in limited operational service (though there is no open source material to support this claim) is even more potent and may even have some advantages over Meteor. Once air dominance is achieved then several external hard points would be available. Would have thought that the development of two airframes… One heavy (RAF) and a lighter (single engine? ) Tongue in cheek? The origin of the Tempest airframe (not systems) is the BAe Replica design study from the 1990s. The latest F-15s will benefit from the greatest amount of computing power of any aircraft. All governments will or have made mistakes but stuff like not shutting the borders etc is bound to be scrutinised. I just wonder if the pilot should lay flat and trust cams. Not an expert but as i understand it so much of the cost (and technical advantage) these days is in technology and system development and software integration etc. I think Leonardo & SAAB are interested & will spend money. The results of the trials will inform further development to better understand a pilot’s cognitive behaviour and processes relating to brain activity, psychological rhythms and eye movement to inform further development. The main NEW financial contribution is the UK Government’s £2b over the next 5 years. Older F-16s, including some USAF examples are being upgraded with the APG-83 AESA radar. (Asahi Shimbun file photo) Though Saudi F-15SAs are extremely advanced they are not considered mature and rumours hint at problems with the aircraft. Even if this programme does not go ahead UK aviation and high tech industries will benefit considerably. It sort of is a modern day TSR2, at least in respect of pushing the technological envelope… Looks absolutely stunning and I ‘really’ hope it happens. Required fields are marked *. However, with modern flight control computers integrated with a digital inertial navigation through to a fly by wire system. Would that not be Pushing it a bit ? The wing twist was included in their Horten IX fighter, but it never really solved the Dutch Rolling. Collectively, the Team Tempest partners are developing more than 60 technology demonstrations in the fields of sensing, data management and autonomy to prove world-leading processes and technologies on the programme. RAF Tranche 1 Typhoons are not Meteor compatible but will instead be fitted with AIM-120D in a deal that was signed in July 2018. Armament for A2A mission: 4 x AIM-120C-7 (Ds in some cases), 2 x AIM-9X (1 x 20-mm cannon). A great sensor suite, including a modern AESA (the APG-80) and comprehensive defensive aids systems is combined with advanced weapons and a proven platform; a small radar cross section also helps. High energy, excellent situational awareness and the best US-made made air-to-air missile give the F-22 a high probability of winning a BVR engagement against anything else. more smaller drones that can go into harms way rather than a sinlge large ‘loyal wingman’. Considering that the USA is our major defence partner, history has shown, especially in recent… Read more », 6 posts before the beautiful TSR2 got mentioned…. Depends on as I said before what’s in the design studios presently to solve the complex issues involved. Especially if likes of Italy, Australia and Japan joined looking to support various lighter to medium weight carriers. The only potential rivals, the Russian Su-57 and Chinese J-20, remain immature. Rolls-Royce has been exploring advanced composite materials and additive manufacturing as part of this work, producing lightweight, more power-dense components capable of operating at these higher temperatures. The Su-35 is even more powerful than the Su-30M series and boasts improved avionics and man-machine interface. Although, to be fair Supportive Bloke makes a good point about having a Def Sec who appears to know is business and a Chancellor who opened the purse strings when we really needed it (can you imagine the economic results of a pandemic + austerity? Stealth, supercruise and the modern weapons mean the J-20 is likely to mature into an extremely capable, and unique, aircraft. Is it more a bomber or attack plane than a fighter? It was selected for the UK's Joint Combat Aircraft requirement in 2001 and is expected to enter service with the Royal Navy and the RAF from around 2020, having been selected initially to … No vertical fins and independently swept wings. The new sensor, called the ‘Multi-Function Radio Frequency System’, will collect and process unprecedented amounts of data on the battlespace – equivalent to the internet traffic of a large city such as Edinburgh, every second. Admins may or may not choose to remove the comment or block the author. However, the radar is a decent size, with good detection range and is fully mature. Also, using BAE Magma tech, we can blow engine thrust out of the tips to help with yaw authority. The large weapons bay might also provide sufficient volume for a wide range of weapons. Typhoon is still the best armed fighter in the world for beyond visual range combat, bar none. Rafale has a more advanced radar than the other European and Russian fighters and weapons (Mica and the Meteor) that the Russians and Chinese do not known as well as the elderly and universal AMRAAM, and thus may be less able to counter. I was in defence procurement and listened to some of the guys invovled in FRES. COVID has hit them very hard but I’m sure they’ll recover from that. With present day technology it would be interesting to build a larger model and test it. And a Chancellor who realises that he is not running a sweet shop and solely trying to balance the cash in the till at the end of the day. I was under the impression that the Generation label is more about Capability and Systems rather than just the looks. By. If we think that surface vessels may encounter increasing difficulties, notwith standing their ability to move considerable distances, how much more will traditional static land bases find survival? The idea should be given a lot of thought and funding for research in my view. British RAF fighter jets return home following Operation Azotize. If the US Navy receives the new generation BVR missile it wants, it is likely that the Super Hornet will be the first to receive. How come it’s always American hardware which is always in First place. September 3, 2013 Military Aviation. This flies in the face of public announcements by Lockheed Martin, USAF and F-35 pilots regarding the aircraft’s effectiveness in the role, but it is hard to read the facts in any other way. One ace the Su-35 has in its sleeve is the inclusion of the R-27T medium range infra-red guided missile (seen on aircraft deployed to Syria) – which is potentially effective against low radar cross section aircraft and has no American equivalent. One wonders why pictures of it are shown to all and sundry. A year later, they left RAF Marham for trials in the North Sea with the Royal Navy's HMS Queen Elizabeth. For me Italy is the favourite for a project on this scale. This is great news. In the end there is always one best engineering solution to a given set of problems, it’s the reason all F1 cars look the same, As can be seen at any international airport where practically all twin-engined airliners have the same basic layout. Lol, I’m guessing you didn’t intend to type that !!!!!! But It wouldn’t just be a Navalised version, it would have to be STOL to be able to operate from our Carriers. However, the downside to this is that the Irbis-E has to operate at extremely high power levels to achieve this performance and so is easily detectable and track-able at ranges beyond those at which it can track. Tom Dunlop-October 1, 2019. I do not think the Italian or Swedish Governments have committed any funding as yet, certainly not on the scale of UK Government funding or it would have been announced with some sort of grand signing at ministerial level – none of which has happened yet. In Location of target the F-35 scores very highly, being arguably the best fighter in terms of sensors and data connectivity. The announcement of Sweden’s collaboration on the project is expected to be made later this month at the Royal International Air Tattoo (RIAT). It seems so my friend…….. it’s obviously the ideal shape to deflect radar waves. The Typhoon is one only two aircraft on this list (the other is Gripen) with a mechanically scanned radar, a 20th century technology which leaves the sensor “… on the verge of complete obsolescence, with an inherently greater vulnerability to jamming and an inability to fully exploit the performance and capabilities of new weapons” according to some in the RAF Typhoon community. The image, show below, accompanied the news that ‘Team Tempest’ have strengthened relationships across UK industry. I read that the US have a new radar system that can detect subs from the surface wake – which must be tiny. Typhoon has the excellent ASRAAM and IRIS-T short range IR missiles which can equal or surpass their Russian counterparts, but at long range the AMRAAM is showing its age and against Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) jamming technology which the Su-35S employs, its Pk drops significantly to the point that multiple missiles would likely be required to kill each target. First RAF fast-jet in a very long time to look like a proper bomber! The Flying Wing design dates back to the 1930’s late 20’s, that’s before the jet engine, it’s not really new. It’ll be interesting to see what she actually turns out like, ideally I’d like to see the project 100% British but it’ll more than likely be a collaboration with close NATO allies and/or partners. Let’s not forget that the UK hasn’t gone it alone for quite a considerable time now. The Su-35 is considerably more capable than earlier ‘Flanker’s and would pose a significant challenge to any ‘eurocanard’. 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